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I feel compelled to make my first post on the forum following the recent debate surrounding my club. Perhaps I can start by making it clear that not everyone at CI agrees with the current policy of attempting to buy success. I say this for a number of reasons, firstly I believe that we are in danger of abandoning some of those players who made major contributions to our journey from Section 3 to the premier league. The knock on effect throughout the club will mean them dropping to the seconds and some of the guys who have been stalwarts in the 2s having to ply their trade in section 3/4 next season. hardly something to look forward to. The truth of the matter is that paid players have made major contributions on the field but nobody I have spoken to can remember much coaching and minimal attendance at nets. Secondly it will be some years before the current youth policy pays dividends and anyone around the club knows that perhaps only 2 to three of the youngsters look like making the grade. In fact given the current policy they may not hang around as I have been told that the two young players we did introduce to the firsts last year are now leaving as the opportunities available to them this year are almost nil. Finally let’s not forget the leaking covers and absence of the grounds man, surely that was an agreed priority from last year. In summary we have developed a siege mentality over the last few years which has not encouraged a healthy debate, comments by contributors such as recently retired cricketer are painful but as the saying goes sometimes the truth hurts. One day the money will run out, sponsors don't last forever and as we all know we are only one of the sporting associations that share Belmont and the revenue that it produces.
Re: Stevo
would just like to say, that like everyone else on this forum you are entitled to your opinion, and credit to you for sticking to it.
Furthermore, Vociferous reposts from CI will do little to hasten any form of respect from other clubs.
It is of course CI's right to have a blatant club policy to try and "buy" the league, just don't be surprized when people equally follow there right to be very scathing of them for it.
No doubt they will always have their sycophantic followers, but respect must be earned, not bought.
A good starting point is usually fielding a team of your genuine club men on a Saturday, then going through the leagues...
Otherwise you've got to take any flak going I'm afraid...
Also, hillarious judith to suggest that McCarthyism has crept into the minds of NI cricketers, how paranoid CI have become, just like the USA...!
Stevo, you should be banned from posting on this forum! I reckon your surname is Henson, and your Dad is Jim, the creator of the muppets!!!
Re. Stevo
No, the CI scorer (me) is not paid, unless you count a few bottles of smirnoff ice as payment. I came to CI to score for the same reasons as I scored at Bangor and at the Dee before that.
Your relentless anti CI campaign smacks of McCarthyism. Chill out.
Re Stevo
I don't like to see a personal grudge against any club especially when it seems to be borne out of jealousy because of their resources whether it is their grounds or their money. I think if any club in the NCU had money like CIYMS are reportedly blessed with then they would use it to i. Improve their clubhouse ii. Improve their pitch iii. Improve their coaching/pro and iv. Improve their team. It isn't unfair to say that by on large CIYMS have tried to do the first two first and then work from there.
Not that their methods are accountable to anyone than their own members mind you, they have jumpedfrom Section 3 to the Premier League so they are doing something right!
North Down are undoubtedly favourites Robin and rightly so with the track record and experience of the team even with a few changes this year. The league may be more competitive though with the various moves and I think that can only be good for all concerned. Let's hope NCU clubs as a whole are a hell of a lot more competitive in the All Ireland as it would be great to see any club in the union lift the trophy.
Re : Stevo
Who do you class as journeymen then?
Going by Michael Hingston's previous posting and others, CI have 70+ kids attending Kwik Cricket coaching, U11, U13 and U15 teams. Due to the success of their recent youth policy, the have now entered a 4th XI this year to continue these youngsters development, as well as a midweek team, which was introduced again only last year. So they have 5 "senior" teams and 3 "youth" teams plus 70 odd Kwik Cricketers, not bad for not having a "no youth" policy.
CI club have also being playing on a relaid square since 2005, which would cost in access of £10k, plus they been sandgroving and sand slitting parts of their outfield to help with the drainage, which would cost in access of £20k, as this be an ongoing process, not just a one off. So my guess £30k plus has been spent on their playing surfaces and area over the last number of years and this will continue to rise.
The square seems to play alright, as in four seasons at least ten centuries have been scored, 4 last season, Strydom 114*, Aphale 133, Hewitt 111 and McCallan 100*, with a few 90's and 80's too, not bad when most of their home fixtures where at the tail end of the summer due to the rain etc!
I still stand by previous posting about your comments Stevo, worthless, as well as non constructive too.
Stevo you are boring me and im sure others with your endless moaning and assumptions about Ci. Ever thought of appearing on 'Loose Women'? Cause buddy you are starting to sound like them - full of hot air and pointless.....
Gary..
the concensus of the forum speaks volumes ! Funny how the experienced heads back good wickets and youth development against reckless spending on journeymen.
I would have to agree with Robin, can't see past North Down for the title.
Connell I am sure will play at times, even if he is in England and away with Ireland, and with Dazler, Russeller and J.T. "joining" so far, along with a quality Aussie pro possibly and whoever may rock up at their nets; they probably have even more in the tank than last year even with Robin and Ralph retiring.
Fair play to CIYMS - they have worked hard and can spend their money on what ever they wish. I would agree that their facilities are top class but their cricketing surfaces (both the square and outfield) wouldnt have a patch on any other Premier League outfit. Perhaps even a fair few in the second and third tiers - ie Downpatrick, Derriaghy, Muckamore, Saintfield, New Forge to name but a few. I'm sure it's difficult with the rugby pitch but surely some of that cash could be chanelled into improving the playing surfaces?
If this ci squad lives up to the rumours can anyone eliminate them from the title race??? I can see them being stronger than csni this year and with north down losing connell who knows?
just a quick note to congratulate Dundrum on an excellent website
wayne - predictions
north down to win the league for the 9th time in the last 11 years
Stevo, I have no affiliation with CI myself, so can't comment on their scorer...but such comments by yourself, prove again my point about your opinions, totally worthless.
One, you can't even say who you are, secondly you have a bee in your bonnet about any club who show any signs of being forward thinking such as CI & CSNI.
Why do you care anyway? Sure you have no affiliation to any of the clubs you played for?! Did you get paid then as you weren't loyal to one club?!?
