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Cricket in a degree of flux, teams not fulfilling fixtures, playing standards continuing downwards, Cricket Ireland becoming increasingly detached from the club game, etc., etc., and what gets most response? The cost of two or three loaves of sandwiches and the time to drink a cuppa in the middle of what can be a 11 hour day! Says it all. By the way, I have always held that the Lisburn teas are best and, as Mrs. Slocombe said 'I am unanimous in that'!
Question about why we have teas?
Very simple for me - Carrickfergus CC provide the best teas ever in the ncu and no matter what level you're playing - 1s.2s, 3s or 4s they always seem to provide teas.
Credit where it's due - simply the best and will never be beaten
Some at the other channel ran for a series on teas in the North-West a few years ago.
Is that a recent post by Neil Fullerton or was it posted on 1st April and lost in your spam ?
It's without doubt the most hideous post I have read on any cricket forum.
It has to be a wind up.
Not 1st April!
All Neil's work, but still a wind up.
Cricket teas can be very important indeed, just ask any cigarette smoker.
We (us Taverners) only play 20 over cricket so we usually just have some tea and coffee, biscuits and drinks on hand throughout the match (for our guests, don't forget you are a host). The bar and bistro are open from Thursday to Sunday if anyone wants to indulge themselves, it's a fantastic spot.
If we are having a 'cricket tea', it's usually after the game and having the finest curry chef in the country in our club we always have a tasty time.
For snr league 50 overs matches people sponsor match balls, why not ask for tea sponsors? Supermarkets throw food away everyday!!
I can't bat , can't bowl and can't really field , if you scrap having tea , what am I meant to be good at ?
I know it's an old chestnut, but does recruiting from outside your own district and further afield, really improve standards at club level?
Take England's recent fortunes at international level for example!
The county championship consists of a rich and diverse blend of cosmopolitan players from all over, and in my opinion, probably as high a standard of first class cricket as you would find anywhere the world over.
Yet, despite being mooted as pre-tournament favourites and with home advantage, the England first eleven were knocked out in the semis by a very average Pakistan side at the current ICC trophy?
Secondly, they tell me the soccer premiership in England is the greatest league in the world, whom am I to argue? That being the case, why during a recent international match are England easily beaten by a ten man France side? The irony ( and perhaps a clue) is that quite a few of the French galacticos just happen to be club teammates of the opposition on the night in question?
Indeed, dare we equate the very same analogy to the current demise of the Ireland side and their recent poor form and losses to teams they used to 'eat for breakfast?'
Time to wake up and smell the coffee me thinks?
Hold on a minute.. need to reel my first catch of the day in...
Ronnie - The age of socialising during/after cricket games has passed by. Maybe you didn't notice.
When I started playing senior cricket in 1984 I had to wait in the corner as a 16-year-old and sit over a coke for a couple of hours while my driver and his pals sank three or four pints.
Sadly those days are gone (Although not the drink driving part - thankfully).
And.. you completely miss my point.
I'm not talking about socialising and interaction. If players want to do that they can still do so after the game
I'm talking about teas and the provision of teas.
It's my personal view that they aren't needed and it's one less thing that a home club needs to worry about on match day
Now, give me a minute while I hook on some more bait..............and now I wait...!
By chance, are you on tea duty at the weekend Neil?
I don't post too often on here, but Neil's post about the tea interval is an interesting one. Overall, I think cricket would be the worse for not having a tea break, but having said that, Neil’s points are most certainly worth considering. Cricket and the tea interval have always, it seems to me, been inextricably linked. That particular interval is part of the game's rich tradition and, although teams seem to me to stay a bit apart most of the time at tea, it does provide an opportunity to mingle, to talk, to renew or strike up friendships and even, on the odd occasion, to argue —but it brings people together and that has to be good. It is, quite simply, part of cricket and, dare I say it, anyone who goes to a cricket match solely for the cricket does not really understand the game. Equally, there are practical issues. After three-plus hours in the field, it is sensible to take some form of sustenance, whether provided by oneself or the home club, but if one provides it for oneself, then teams will end up eating/drinking in their dressing rooms, and I don’t think that’s healthy or in the spirit of cricket. Equally, the fielding side need to pad up, the pitch may need remarked/rolled/tended to, the scores checked and, if it applies, DLS has to be run etc. The umpires also need some consideration, as Neil rightly mentioned. Now, I know that the cost element is important and I know that encouraging more people to play is vital. However, I reckon that a lot of the costs come out of player’s pockets and would not necessarily be redirected to elsewhere in the club. Equally, and assuming some sort of break is needed if only to carry out the practicalities, I’m not convinced that saving what would probably be no more than 20 minutes is going to make the difference between people playing or not. All that said, it seems to me that there is nothing other than custom and practice that prevents what Neil is suggesting from happening. The NCU bye laws are clear that the tea interval should not exceed 30 minutes, so there is nothing there that says it has to be 30 minutes or prevent a shorter interval from being taken. Equally, the Laws of the game, see Law 15 (10), state: “At any time during the match, the captains may agree to forgo the tea interval or any of the drinks intervals.” So, the option to shorten or even forgo the tea interval already exists. Nonetheless, I think Neil has raised an interesting point that will, I imagine, engender some discussion, even if I wouldn’t be keen on it myself.
There you go Simon!
Great to hear you.
Good man Neil, why not go even further have separate entrance and exits for each team and ban them from having any social interaction in the bar even after the game. great call
Why do we have teas in NCU cricket?
Why is the home team under an obligation to provide food and tea for the opposition?
Why do we take up to 30 minutes between innings by taking tea?
Why do clubs waste time, effort and money providing teas?
The London Times last week had a page packed full with letters from the secretaries of local cricket clubs in England complaining about the rising costs and the increased pressure on man-power to provide teas. Some clubs said they were losing between £2,000 and £3,000 per year.
Now we are not in that league as most NCU clubs seem to rely on the goodwill and effort of female members, players' wives and girlfriends and, in some instances, committee men to do the needful but it does raise the question.. why bother?
In fact some clubs spend money every week using outside caterers to bring food in. Madness! Surely this money can be put to better use.
Why would players - some of whom are playing at a reasonably high level - want to fill their stomachs with sandwiches, pastries, chocolate biscuits and sausage rolls halfway through a physical, competitive game of sport.
In this age of the 'professional game' and the proper preparation and sensible rehydration of the body it just doesn't make sense.
Why can't players bring their own? Players know what they prefer/need to eat and drink so they can prepare those on the morning of a match. When their team is batting they have plenty of time to eat.
Now I know many 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc, groups of players are going to be shouting - what about us? But my argument doesn't change.... Have a good hearty, healthy breakfast and if you need a snack between then and your return home, bring it with you.
Remember your match is likely to be only 25-40 overs per side. No more than five hours of action.
Most normal people go five-six hours between meals every day of the week.
We are losing players from the sport because of the length of time the game takes so why not turn straight around between innings and cut out the unnecessary gap.
If there are umpires present - I realise it's a long stand for them - a cup of tea and a snack can be provided for them in their changing area. Simple.
Less hassle for everyone. Less gaps in play. More opportunity for everyone to watch and enjoy the game we love.
The final’s day for the Dundrum Cricket Club schools coaching programme took place at the Meadow in Dundrum on the morning of Tuesday 13th June. A total of eight teams of girls and boys from six local primary schools took part. Newcastle Primary, Sacred Heart Dundrum, Castlewellan Primary, All Children’s Integrated, St Joseph’s Carnacaville and Annsborough Integrated Primary all enjoyed fun filled competitive cricket with a break for tea. The finals day saw the children enjoying getting to grips with the basics of the game including batting, bowling, throwing and running. Four wickets were set up at the Meadow and four games took place at once, culminating in a final between ______Newcastle____________________and________All childrens __________________________ with __Newcastle primary__________________________taking the title from Castlewellan PS Champions in 2016.
Dundrum Cricket Club are keen to build on this successful coaching programme and would encourage any young people who would like to have a go to come to the Club training sessions at the Meadow (Old Road, Dundrum). Minis ages (5-9) and Junior U11 Monday 6:15 -7:45pm, with Junior U13 and U15 Wednesdays 6:15 – 8:00pm
There will also be club running two Summer Schemes on 4th to 6th July and 16th to 18th August – all for children aged 5-15 at the Meadow. Full details for these opportunities can be found atwww.dundrumcc.btck.co.uk
Stephen Calvert 13/6/17
Club Committee Member Contact numbers 028 4375 1222 or 07917 020104
The final was well contested with All childrens scoring 50 runs in eight overs with top scorer Oliver Corrigan batting possibly to late as played well in every game Luke Crawford and Yashin Brannigan all scored runs Captain Daniel Shiels who was there best bat in groups and Zara de Carvalho Isabella Susey -Quinn showed loads promise and Ben Young scored late runs with Jamie Tweedy taking the hardest catch of the day. Newcastle had the hard hitting Matthew Foster who top scored twice earlier but a good catch from Anna -lucie Barber stopped him in second over but very good batting from Zack Curran and Jamie Tweedy got them back on top but Daniel Shiels held another two cracking catches but it was Justin Mcteer hit the winning runs in the last over and Matthew Foster lift the Shield for Newcastle .
16 June at 1pm
Schools Cup Final
RBAI v Wallace HS
Muckamore, Co Antrim
16 June at 5pm
Interprovincial T20 Trophy
North West Warriors v Northern Knights
Strabane, Co Tyrone
IRISH SENIOR CUP QUARTER FINALS
Coleraine/Waringstown v Merrion
Bready/Pembroke v North Down
CIYMS V Instonians
Donemana/The Hills v Balbriggan
IRISH NATIONAL CUP
Malahide v Midleton
Derriaghy v Newbuildings/Knockharley
Rush v Terenure
Strabane v County Kerry
I appreciate your response. Should I find myself at Templepatrick this summer, I will happily discuss your thoughts on the local game with you in person. I do think, other than the tatoo comments, you make some valid points.
Kind regards and happy convalescing.