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Re. BC

Oh, major sour grapes there, evidently not leaving Carrick on good terms with everyone.

And as nicknames go, surely "Donkey" is a fairly rough one for a young fella to be lumbered with!

Welcome on board Barry and his wrist!! looking forward to seeing you (and your wrist ;-)) defending Fortress Belmont this summer :-)!! We are delighted to have you on join us!

Well put Dan. Roger doesn’t do magnanimity so excuse his public personal catharsis – this is just his way of thanking me for 13 years service.

The only club cricketers that can claim to be truly loyal are those that pay subs year after year for the privilege of playing and I’m sure the irony isn’t lost on anyone with the comments now emanating from Carrick’s paymaster.

If it was all about the dough I’d be unfolding the wheelchair for Carrick again this year.

This must be a different Michael Gilmour from the one I suggested should open at the start of last season – the one the chairman of selectors (no prizes) insisted wasn’t good enough. I hope Donkey can live up to these new-held expectations.

The wrist is fine Roger thanks for asking.

Gareth

You do understand that if you are at a smaller club trying to progress that you are not delighted by the phone calls (or web postings) from Premier clubs enticing your best players away……..yes?.........well that’s a general opinion.
To say that a general opinion means everyone then you are mistaken. I would say that your posting is a general opinion as well…. Not one I agree with…but a general opinion.

It’s obvious and correct in you saying

‘There is not one club anywhere in the country that hasn't approached a player and asked them to join their club. Not one!’

That does not mean that it is right to do so as publicly as this especially after mentioning loyalty in his posting. Now that was just silly.

Every club (since Inst dropped the qualification) are open doors. Any player wanting to play at a higher standard only need to approach that club. Simple.

Could Roger also maybe explain the ‘in strictest confidence’ quote?

That's right men, I once left my club Victoria I had first joined as a raw energetic 29yr old, to play with as I thought a bigger club. Yes the standard was higher, but it just was'nt the same and I felt I'd let my old skipper and my former team-mates down.
So straight next season, back I went and I'm still there,y es Loyality there's alot to be said for it!
Bye the way, went out and bowled a few overs in the park yesterday, its a bit muckie still and it was hard working up a head of steam in the 'gutters' but I did manage to hit the stump a few times.
Vic Jons Victoria C.C. (no payment req.)

re: OMG

I find it interesting that you value your own opinion so highly, that Roger is to take it as the general opinion. I thank you for attempting to speak for us all, but my personal opinion happens to be different. There is not one club anywhere in the country that hasn't approached a player and asked them to join their club. Not one!
I think it is an interesting idea that Roger has published Carrick's need for a wicketkeeper publically and I see no mention of a financial incentive.
From my visits to Carrick they have invested heavily in their facilities so I have no problem with them spending money on players.

Re : Roger Bell

So Roger, you are saying that Carrick do not lure players away from other clubs by offering them money then?!!!!

Pot, kettle, black springs to mind! Maybe you should have a cuppa from that kettle and a couple of those sour grapes along with it from your fruit bowl!

Maybe, just maybe, it isn't just about money when a player wants to leave a club...

Roger

Agreed there is a difference. Rumours I heard about Gideon Van Rensburg and Woodvale are obviously rubbish then???
I do not want to get up close and personal with you so would prefer that you take the postings content as a general opinion not a personal opinion.
There is a life outside Carrick and the Premier League and small clubs want to hold onto their best players. Why should we not have ambition in lower leagues as indeed Carrick had when in that position.
Leave those players alone.....money offered or not. This is an opinion held by many not just me.

Re: OMG

I think there's a bit of a difference in offering an opportunity to any players who may be interested in playing a higher standard of crcket, and luring a particular player away from his club by offering him money!

PS: I thought corrspondents had to identify themselves before their submissions were published here?

Re Roger

Your interpretation of loyalty is so twisted it's funny.
OK for someone to be loyal to Carrick but any wicketkeepers from other clubs don't need to be...........
You are probably referring to players outside section 1. Bet not so long ago when Carrick were Section 2 and losing the odd player to Senior 1 clubs you were delighted for them....unless of course they were nearly ready for the knackers yard in which case you 'didn't blame them'. Ha Ha

There has been alot talk recently of the issues relating to club grounds in the NCU not being up to standard.

Personally I think it is very hard to blame clubs, without regard for some of the issues which they are confronted with e.g very bad weather over the last 2 summers, thousands of pounds required to make appropriate changes (which majority of clubs do not have), lack of knowledge regarding the preparation and maintenance of grounds, as well as the lack of management from above on this particular issue.

Equally I feel that those who are in a privileged position of having a good ground to play at should understand that for the vast majority of the clubs in the NCU (inc. Section 1) are not, and that there are many other reasons than they are too busy paying players!

Re : Sam Jennings

I can assure you that Ryan is loyal to his club and will be around for a few years yet. He will again be captaining Carrick in 2009 and has no intention of joining CI or anyone else. Carrick will certainly miss Barry Cooper at the top of the order, but he was having injury problems and probably coming towards the end of his career anyway, so you can't really begrudge him taking CI's money at this stage. As Wayne Horwood says in his posting, this will be a great opportunity for young Irish Universities opener Michael Gilmour who impressed so much when he got a chance at the top of the order, with a number of excellent innings, including a fifty at The Lawn, when Coops was absent following his wrist operation in the latter part of the 2008 season. I can also assure you that Carrick will be no pushovers and will be strengthening our side for 2009.

PS: With Coops departure there is an opportunity for a keeper at Carrick, if anybody out there is interested in having a go in the Premier League, please get in touch with either Eagy or myself in strictest confidence

Re: Gary (or was that a typing error & you are "Stevo"??)

I assume you meant to type in Stevo, and if so you would make a great politican!! You only answered one of my three questions!!

So what grounds do you think are awful? And what club did you play most of your cricket for?

ciyms could prove to be the surprise team for 2009 with all these new signings.Heard that Neil Gelston has also joined.Barry Cooper is still a top player and will get 600 runs at the top of the order.Also heard his old Carrick pal Ryan Eagleson might join him?

Any other transfer news out there

Re Gary.

I am also an ex player yet have played on all the section 1 grounds and indeed section 2 grounds. There is a VAST difference in playing surface standard something which is much more important than another name for a few grand to keep a team "up".