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Lads jeez what is wrong Ciyms is a fine club with loads of stalwarts from even in my time when they were section 3 club Luco/Hughsey/Hinky, Tony etc and all are still playing and thriving as they push their club to the highest level in the premier with the so called big clubs with a very good junior set up .What no one can answer is their is pathetic jealousy over a club that has raised all their money threw excellent sponserhip and also support good charities ( maybe the sponsors should just waste the £ and give it to the tax man ) and fact is every club would like to have their budget and surely every premier club is paying either pros or coaches etc .No doubt North Down have fantastic set up and fair play to all involved but couple years back it was Derriaghy that got lots unjustified stick but surely every club had the right to run there club whatever way they choose and ive no doubt that Ciyms will be in premier for good few years and good luck them . PS if any other club had got Craig Mcmillan too play for them they would got credit not stick .

If people are getting paid and everything is within the rules then what exactly are the problems people have with that? At the end of the day Clubs only have to justify their actions to their members.

I also have read many posts on here saying basically if you haven't played at the top level then your opinion isn't valid. What utter nonsense. I am 19 play 3rd and 4th team cricket and enjoy doing so. Why should my opinion be worth any more or any less than everyone else?

Yes I respect those with experience and always listen to their views. But their opinions are not worth more than mine because they have won 5 premier leagues and a few cups.

Victoria have released an Official Statement. I hope this will clarify the position of Victoria Cricket Club at this time.

Re russler

"Get your facts right before posting rubbish"

A sentiment a lot of people choose to ignore when bashing CI.

Re Andy Kennedy

Discraceful comment, how about you leave ci financial matters to the club and perhaps concentrate more on your umpiring!

Michael,

Thank you for that clarification, but as I said to Russeller, there is a perception that certain players do get paid, even if this is not true.

Re Andy Owen,

Ballymena CC does not pay James Kennedy, David Kennedy, Andy Kirkpatrick, or Steve Lazars. With the exception of one year when Steve was our professional (2009), we never have done either.

Russeller,

My comments are based on a perception that many people have of certain local players in the Premier League, as well as Section One & Two.. I am not saying they are correct, but many people think this way.

Take yourself as an example, many people believe you where paid to play for Glendermott, if that is true then people think you are still paid to some degree.

Hats off to North Down for investing in their facilities, but your website mentions that this is only possible due to an interest free loan from an anonymous donor. Loans are very different to sponsorship...you have to repay them for one!

Hopefully my facts are a little bit straighter than last time.

Re Andy Owen (Not familiar with your name, strangely enough!!!)

I have never, nor will ever receive one penny from my club for playing cricket. Nor does Sutherland. Fact.

NDCC is investing nearly 60k on new facilities/further upgrades this winter. What a real club does. This has been achieved by superb endeavour from our Chairman, right down the line to our Exec Committee and members, who have attained some superb sponsorship deals, not an easy thing to do in this current climate, which has allowed us to re-invest in facilities that will allow all our already thriving and succesful Youth section to continue to thrive, under the Expert eyes of our CDO, Ryan Haire.

So, in short, get your facts straight before you post a loss of rubbish.

Re: Down Council

We have no doubt that we have been receiving good value for money in the past.

However, the price paid for a service, must reflect the service received. As we carry out a lot of tasks at the cricket facilities (opening up, cleaning the pavillion etc) we do not beleive that the proposed price does.

Regardless of your opinions on the value for money, a 575% increase would not be accepted in any line of business, especially when no costings have been provided.

RE - Stuart Hughes

At last a sensible well thought out post and with his real name.

Re Victoria Cricket Club

Hire of ground for a MATCH in Down District Area was approximately £85 in 2011 and has been around this figure for many years...............this equates to a figure of £1700 + VAT to cater for ALL home matches for 2nd & 3rdXI in the season. As this seems to be around the charges now being considered in Craigavon Council I think you have been getting away very cheaply over recent years.

Consider your charges in recent years and decide if they would have come anywhere near the provision and maintenance costs of the ground.

Consider the total cost of your team playing a round of golf at the local council course and decide if you have been getting value for money in previous years.

Its near time players started to realise what it costs in providing/maintaining sports facilities and stop living in the past.

Re - CI Man

I have asked this question before, but unfortunately for some reason it was veto'd

Please define yourself - as I a confused as to what exactly a "CI Man" is...?

This forum does tend to go round in circles. Yes CI have money and yes they spend it. I do agree that the best time to judge whether it is a success is in a few years. If it helps them to achieve a vibrant and working youth section. That after all is the only thing that can provide long term stability.

When people spend money other people are going to be jealous that's life.

Re Billy

Yes Billy, I am very close to the pulse, you're not considering your outrageous facts. Interesting list of other team's paid pros, glad to see all these teams are trying to better themselves as well. Should make for great cricket in 2012.

Not impressed with the accuracy of the information on "professionals" as a lot of this is hot air. Andy and Michael Owen you are stirring the pot but since you ask the question I suspect many of the players you list are not paid. If anything CI appear more open about professionalism than anyone yet they get barracked by the nameless and shameless.