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Re Craig McK - No!
do u think that the challenge cup should be back to 60 overs a side
Rodney
I'm not sure the Premier Clubs would go for the idea of them not being allowed to play their Pros but Section 1 are - despite the difference in playing standards!
My own thought is that the 12 o'clock start for the Challenge Cup still harks back to the days when it was a 60 over competition and hence the earlier start time at this time of the year than say the Junior Cup.
I agree wylie thats what the AGM is for however regarding what rule is best I would propose allowing section 1 pros to play and preventing premier league pros from playing against teams from a lesser league. If you think about it, the pros in Section 1 aren't really pros because they come over as amateurs and the NCU don't allow first class players. Surely the premier league teams would still be strong enough to beat the section 1 teams even if the section 1 teams have a pro in their side? If not then does it not tell you something about the standard of cricket in the premier league?
Regarding the start times I can see why the NCU have not taken in to consideration school boys as most clubs playing in the challenge cup won't have school boys in their side (maybe I'm wrong), however it's maybe a proposal that should be made at the AGM.
Just a thought.
Rodney
Jeff and others - it was us at Lisburn who proposed the change to the rule about professionals in the cup. Anyone who was at that AGM will no doubt remember it well, particularly the "debate" I engaged in with Murray Power over the wording of the changes. Our first preference was to just simply remove the ban and allow pros to play (as you have suggested should be the case), but despite that explanation being provided in the narrative accompanying our proposal, because of a technical drafting error, we could not move it at the meeting.
We had put in the rule that was eventually passed as a fallback - our thinking was that there may be lower section clubs, like yourselves, who might feel that it would be unfair for a PL club to play their pro against theirs, as the NCU rules are different in terms of the playing standards of the pro in PL and in Section 1. Despite a similar drafting issue being raised by Murray, and a fairly lengthy conversation about it,we were able to get round that on the night and have it passed. However, it was, I repeat, our second preference.
Wylie is right though - it can be changed at the AGM. It will certainly get the backing of Lisburn CC if you want to prepare it - just be very careful about how you draft it!!!!!!!!
re: disillusioned with the NCU rule book
This rule (26a) has been in place for at least one if not two years - why did Jeff (or his club) not propose a change to this rule regarding "pros" from different sections playing against each other in the Challenge Cup at last years NCU AGM – this scenario has happened before as Saintfield fell foul of this rule last year I think as they wanted to play their “pro” against a team from a higher section.
The 12 o’clock start time is also a rule that can be changed at an NCU AGM . . . . . . if the clubs want to that is of course.
jeff, as you said rules are rules, the same rules applied last year in the challenge cup, and it doesnt only affect Dundrum it affects all the lower league clubs.
I would say the NCU brought in the rule as the pro's in the premier league tend to be of a higher standard that those in section 1 as they play first class cricket so they probably feel it would benefit the lower clubs more by not playing pro's.
You have been very quiet over the winter jeff, has this ruling woken you up?
RE Jeff Maguire
That's the problem with common sense it's not very common!!!!!!
And we wonder why we can't retain or recruit young players......
editor . chairman ncu sent me email ref rule a26 (joke imo) stating that if both teams agreed too play pros we both be thrown out as we are junior club and rule is supposed too help us .lol be back later hopefully not as cross!
Cant believe that got email informing Dundrum that we cant play our professional in the senior cup , our club made the decision month ago that we wouldnt hide from playing againest waringstown fast bowling pro only too be informed that we cant , in my opinion that is a shocking rule or decision as surely as both teams are in agreement then common sense should appply an just when im in ranting mood we also were told that we cant delay the start 1 hour so that our best 2 school boys can get chance too play in the clubs biggest ever game againest a great team an ground at Waringstown which surely is a terrible decision as everyteam is trying too promote junior members. I no rules are rules is their common sense in NCU . if both teams can agree then surely thats common sense an can only be good for the game that we all love an the main reason their wont be stalwarts in junior clubs in 10 years as their is very little common sense ? ps i wont be back till 430 so be interested on any response . pps approve will win first race at salisbury tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!
why can't your pro play jeff?
Well done to Niall O'Brien on his elevation to the position of Northants vice-captain.
Gary Wilson also got a game in the Championship scoring 62 for Surrey.
Dundrum cricket club are running a golf classic at Downpatrick golf course friday 28 may tee off times from 1pm / 5pm cost 80£ per team anyone interested contact Jeff 07730334479 . ps theirs a few cricketers that might get too shout four instead hitting them .
To all keen gardeners in the cricket fraternity!
Raymond and Maureen Hunter have kindly agreed to open their garden to the public on Friday 21st May 2010 between 2pm and 8pm. All proceeds are towards Lurgan Tigers and Lurgan Cricket Club. The garden is at their home at 19, Calvertstown Road, Bleary, BT63 5NY and has previously featured on the UTV programme 'How Does Your Garden Grow'. Admission is £3 and refreshments are available.
The garden has over 500 rhododendrons,the majority of which are currently in full bloom
I have to confess very belatedly that yes i forgot i had Bart's gear in my boot and as i was batting 10 in a two night game I arrived about half an hour after we lost our first wicket- BART!!
On Crooksie- Chris Harte and I were pacing the hospital floor when he met us to announce ' TWO WEE TEA LADIES'
Spot on Robin.
Nothing wrong with your memory but we'll have to ask the Bart why he didn't borrow gear. I suspect there weren't many of us there on time to ask!
