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Johhny

work

21st May 2010

Ok so in this debate the pro is the overseas player, but is this the same as far as the NCU is concerned? I would have thought that a pro is a pro and therefore those players paid to play should not be able to do so in Senior Cup!

Response

Johnny, any team in the NCU can pay as many players as they want, in fact all 11 if that is their preference. However, you can only have one overseas playera and it is this person whom the rules refer to for both the league and cup.

Craig Mckinley

banbridge

21st May 2010

re ryan
would u get rid of the clubturf

taito

getting ready for a weekend of cricket

21st May 2010

jeff, yeah the crowd were there to watch him bat so i had to spill it, peer pressure!!!

Ryan Haire

BT1

21st May 2010

Re Andy / Craig...some ideas...

I think we currently have a good mix of comps. I still have a feeling with our weather there is maybe one competition too many, not sure which one I would drop though!

stuart hegarty

cookstown

21st May 2010

jeff - just an idea, but do u not think that for ur club's "biggest ever game" the schoolboys could just miss their school game? the start time for cup matches has been the same for as long as i can remember. if the boys cant prioritize what game is more important then its hardly the ncu's fault. i'm sure the school wud understand.
andy - alot of club cricket in south africa is 60 overs (maybe even 65) but they start at 9am, so not something i am keen to see introduced over here haha.

jeff maguire

what does humble pie suppose taste like cause i aint tried it ? yet !

21st May 2010

I no it looks as if i was blaming the NCU but i wasnt it was just frustration an even the chairman agrees that the rule needs changed just it looks silly for the game of cricket that we all love to play an watch an the pity that both coaches wont get too play in front of a good crowd and superb cricket ground! re wylie ive been loads agms an you have more chance of finding osama bin laden that getn something changed example senior club had 4 votes they voted 2 for againest .lol but point taken. ps tayto wen you pay the 40£ you owe too ian bothams charity ill start bantering again bye the way heard u had bet on yourself too drop craig mcmillan last night ? did you get payed .

Johnny

Kitchen

21st May 2010

What constitutes a pro? If getting paid constitutes a pro surely there are a few Senior 1 sides who will be drafting in some 2nd XI players? Or do they have to be registered pro's who the NCU have approved and if this is the case then the rules are there to help the richer clubs to win the Challenge Cup? All players, who are paid to play, are pros in my eyes..........

Response

the 'pro' referred to in this debate is technically the overseas player.

andy kennedy

sultry Buckna

20th May 2010

nobdy in the world plays 60 over games except possibly in the Thames Valley League where the rule book resembles a phone book so lets not get too wound up about the NCU book! If one really looks at the term "Challenge Cup" surely last season's winners should be "challenged" by the others i.e all the other teams should play a knock-out competition for the right to "challenge" the holders! Now there's one for the AGM!

craig mckinley

banbridge

20th May 2010

yeah but if you talk to most people they want it reduced from 50 overs. we need to make people relise that there is more than 20 20 cricket

taito

belfast

20th May 2010

craig, thats why it is 50 overs not 20

Nigel Jones

CNSI 1st XI Captain

20th May 2010

Just thinking….

60 over Cricket - where & when will Ireland ever play a 60 over game!!!???

You have to prepare the future of Irish Cricket in an environment that will help to develop their game(s) and 60 over Cricket is not that!

I’m yet to play in this season’s Challenge Cup, so forgive me if I’m wrong but in my opinion it should be the same rules as the Irish Senior Cup (Full ODI rules with power play etc), surely if you want to make any changes to the current Cup format then this would make the most/best logical sense for change.

Regarding Pro’s playing in the Challenge Cup – if you want a competition to be fair to all clubs evolved then you need one set of rules & conditions to apply to all clubs/teams. The Competition should not be there to give the underdog a helping hand and currently it does.

From my own playing point of view I couldn’t care less who we play as long as the rules are the same for both teams, simply surely…… however it never is!

Good luck to all the teams still involved in this season's Challenge Cup.

Craig McKinley

banbridge

20th May 2010

yeah but you also have to players can can play for long innings and not 20/20 slogging

taito

belfast

20th May 2010

craig, 60 overs shouldnt be brought back in as irish cricket needs to move with the times. 60 over competitions went out with the ark. In an environment where we are trying to get more young people to become interested in cricket or continue to play, lenghtening games would certainly not be the way forward to do so.

Craig McKinley

banbridge

20th May 2010

re ryan h
y do u think that 60 overs shouldnt be brought back in the challange cup. its called the challenge cup. they need to make it a challenge.

Ryan Haire

BT1

20th May 2010

Re Rodney...

All Premier League "pros" are not necessarity first class players! We have a club cricketer Daniel Harding at NDCC.
If a club has taken the initiative and signed a pro they must be rewarded by the union allowing him to play in all competitions irrespective of opponents.