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Lurgan Park Ranger

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13th Sep 2010

No Vic, didn;t get to wirness that one. Although, I heard it was quite a game. Got filled in on the details by some of your "older, non-playing members".

Clarence Hiles

HQ

13th Sep 2010

Harry Henderson
We have just learned of the sad passing of Harry Henderson. Harry was a great stalwart of North-West cricket and through umpiring he made a big contribution to the game throughout Ireland. He was a highly-rated international umpire and a popular official with both players and spectators. He donned many roles in umpiring and gave sterling service in its administration. He was a friendly person who always had a warm welcome when greeting fellow cricketers.
Deepest sympathy is extended to his family

Ryan

BT1

13th Sep 2010

RE Wides...

Vic et al. one definite aid would be the painting of the "wide lines" which are ever present at the top level of cricket within the crease to aid umpires (75cm from outside lines).
From talking to umpires and standing myself in youth games its a real help and one which would be welcomed by all.
PS. Anything missing the line of leg if not passing through the batsman=wide

Vic Johns

Oh to be an umpire !

13th Sep 2010

Yes it was the very same match Park-ranger !

Although I can't recollect seeing you there though !!

Lurgan Park Ranger

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13th Sep 2010

Was that the feisty clash of local rival Victoria and Portadown Vic?

Maybe that was a case of two wrongs making a right??

Vic Johns

Rain, rain clear off to Spain !

13th Sep 2010

Andy,
From your responce, I take it then that the answer to my query regards the calling of a wide ball, is purely at the discretion of the umpire.

Although I have another little irksome problem that has caused me some difficultly in sleeping lately ?

During a match earlier this season, I was umpiring at square-leg, our Skipper was batting and was bowled by a full -toss, the ball skimming the top of the stumps and removing the bails.

Off he had to go, but later on I was confronted by some of our 'wiser' non-playing supporters and told I should have called 'no-ball', indeed the Captain himself later queried by judgement and wondered why I had not called 'no-ball'!

My point is...the assumption was the ball was to high on the full ! But how could it have been, when the ball actually hit the wicket ?

taito

scotland

13th Sep 2010

i would just like to echo alfies comment and although i wasnt there i would like to thank neil and lurgan for their efforts in getting the game played on saturday.
Lurgan are a proud club and there was never any doubt that they would want a win to finish the season.

A Linehan

DPK

12th Sep 2010

I would like to thank Lurgan Cricket Club, and in particular Neil Hunter, for their efforts to get th match played on Saturday.

andy kennedy

drying out in Buckna

12th Sep 2010

Vic - I had the pleasure of standing with a colleague from the North-West recently and, before the match, he had expressed some concerns about the interpretation of the "wide" in NCU senior cricket. At the end of the game he was a convert to our practice in that bowlers accept the decision. In other jurisdictions I understand that problems with bowlers arise regarding the calling of "wides" such as "how wide was it?", "was it wider than the one you called 3 overs ago?" etc.
I note the concerns of Mr Williamson about the Lurgan game. Had he a wee "spot bet" on the result!? As someone who was unfortunate to be both Waringstown & Lurgan on Saturday rather than enjoying the sun in "Bullfast" (sic) I would describe the conditions at Pollock Park that I saw at 3:30, despite the best efforts of the guys on the ground, were "unsuitable" verging on the "dangerous".

Neil Hunter

Belfast

12th Sep 2010

Jon

Thanks for your comments, your thoughts are much appreciated.

As for Stephen Williamson, I see you had another go at Lurgan and the umpires on the Cricket Europe Website.

My brother is a bit more refined than me in his reply but its like this. Say something constructive otherwise dont go to print.

I am sure everyone who is reading your pathetic dribble will realise that whoever you are and whatever club you represent it is obvious that you have a very BIG CHIP on your shoulder.

To be honest are a very sad individual.

Vic Johns

'Rain spoils play' !

12th Sep 2010

Is there a 'clear & cut' ruling on the calling of a wide ball, when it pitches on leg stump and moves (or spins) away down legside ?
Or is it up to the descretion of the umpire at the time ?

Personnally, I would be inclined to allow such a delivery to stand as it initially pitches in line and therefore the batsman has a chance to play at it.

Also it takes a fair amount of skill and practise to be able to bowl a cricket-ball and be able to make it move or spin away like that and this should not be discouraged by the 'calling' of a wide ball, although if it pitches outside legstump and misses the batsman's pads, then it is obviously a wide ball !

Jon

Home

11th Sep 2010

Neil
You did well to 'hold your tongue'. I think its a massive statement shown by Lurgan on the field that they intended to play the game properly, not that any of us had any doubts. As I said in an earlier post, Lurgan are a top club and will not be playing 'whoevers available'. Credit to you guys! Its a pity the rain ruined it.

Stephen Williamson

hiding behind the sofa

11th Sep 2010

So - no problem then to get the same team out, win the toss and bat again?

Neil Hunter

Belfast

11th Sep 2010

Steven Williamson

Whoever you are and whatever club you come from its quite simple, if you want to say something constructive on this forum please do so.

You slagged my club Lurgan on 7th September. I was disgusted as it was a slur on us.

We did our best to play today but when we were 110 for 0 at 25 overs, four massive showers wrecked a days cricket.
So much for your prediction.

If you ask the Downpatrick players, they will tell you that we put a massive effort in to play this game.

You are just an absolute disgrace not only to yourself but if you belong to a club they would be ashamed of you.

If someone gave you a dig in the mouth, that is what you deserve for what you said.

Shame on you

clarence Hiles

HQ

10th Sep 2010

Thanks Stuart