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Robert Best

Academy CC

30th Nov 2010

Jason,

Yes, the changes are going in for this coming season and Millpark 2s will be in Junior 3 next year (Most of top 6 from last years 2-3 and then the bottom two from last years 2-2).

Jason Maxwell

Banford Green

30th Nov 2010

Due to the birth of my son i havent been on here in ages and to save me sifting through 10 pages as captain of Millpark 2nd XI are the junior proposals being brought in for the upcoming season or is the season after next??? i think we came 3rd in 2-3 so what section will we be in for the upcoming season????

Robert Best

Academy CC

30th Nov 2010

Re Junior Cricket Task Force

First of all I would like to thank the task force for their work as clearly getting such a broad motion passed at the AGM shows its popularity (Despite what has been said it certainly was not unanimous, but that is splitting hairs)

On the whole, the restructuring should work well. I think placing 3-1 above most of 2-3 is probably the right move. Ideally I would have split the remainder of 2-3 in half again, and placed the top half with the top half of 3-1 and the bottom half with the bottom of 3-1, but the way it has been done will do, and should be an improvement. The person posting claiming that details of the task force’s recommendations being hidden must have been living in a dream world for the past six months!

Academy CC is not happy with the reduction on overs, and stand by our principle that the idea of reducing the amount of cricket we play will lead to a better standard and more people playing is nonsense. However changes did need to be made and on the whole it looks like the task force got it right. Personally, I would have wanted the overs to be set at 40 for all games involving 2nd XI cricket; but you can't get everything.
However, I do have a major concern about the issue surround what was 2-1. With it remaining a ten team league for one season only, effectively there will be no promotion next season with 2 teams being relegated from every league. SURELY the union can sort this out by reducing 2-1 to 8 team leagues at the same time as everyone else? Otherwise the majority of teams will face a pretty pointless season with little to play for, and the idea of the new league structure will take a further year before it can be corrected through promotion and relegation.

Lastly, I would like to thank the task force for listening to clubs and agreeing to drop the frankly ridiculous proposal of forcing all but the clubs bottom team to play on Saturdays only. Had that term not been removed, I know of quite a few clubs that would not have been able to back the task forces proposals.

Neil Hunter

Belfast

30th Nov 2010

Vic

I would never did holes in Lurgan Park as it is one of the most beautiful places to play cricket in Ireland.

It is also the first place I sat on a roller to prepare a wicket for Lurgan. The only thing was I was aged 3 and my dad was driving !!

Vic Johns

Not my real name...but you knew that anyway !

29th Nov 2010

Andy,
Keep it quiet for now about our new club-house, it's not been made official news just yet.

What with this Victoria C.C. juggernaut building momentum at an unstoppable rate...... we would'nt want Neil and some of his mates coming down from Pollock Pk, one of these dark winter nights with (Lurgan) spades and digging holes all over our lovely pitch in the Park !!

Vic Johns

Just outta bed !

29th Nov 2010

I'm still here Neill, but I think the Australian cricket groundsmen should send for you quickly and show them how to prepare a decent wicket, that's helps the bowlers as well !!

After the expected English first innings 'wobble', everyone was talking up what a great pitch it was for playing cricket on.

I disagree, it was a terrible pitch to play TEST cricket on, they might as well have played on a taramac road with a tennis ball and if anyone doubts my criticism.... just look at how many empty seats there were all around the stadium for a 1st test Ashes series after the first day !

Here's hoping it improves for Adelade, or I might even have to go with the chaps to Mournview Pk. & watch Glenavon play football instead..perish the thought !!

andy kennedy

digging Flossie out of the snow

29th Nov 2010

Neil - I understand that Vic has been clearing the driveway to their clubhouse at Brownlow House!!

andy kennedy

snowed in in Buckna

29th Nov 2010

just to seek clarification from Jim - perhaps he could show where my posting was "anti-English"? I will admit to a dislike of Mr. Collingwood based on his behaviour at Stormont - and I would inform Jim that my view has been shared by many who I have met around cricket grounds all round the NCU. Does this make all those guys anti-English? I don't think so. But to the matter in hand - I always thought that the ethos of a commentator was to be fair & impartial. Unfortunately this seems to be a thing of the past - and not only in cricket. The likes of Brian Moore & George Hook (who always publicly displayed his dislike of the former Ireland rugby coach) are only 2 examples. Mr. Atherton certainly appears to be able to present both sides of a situation in a balanced manner - a fine commentator rather than a prejudiced pundit.

Neil Hunter

Belfast

29th Nov 2010

Andy,

With you and Vic on the forum it will never become sterilised. ( By the way where is VIC ?? )

Ivan has got it totally right in what he has said about the Task Force.

Well said Ivan

ivan mccombe

Muckamore

27th Nov 2010

A load of nonsense is being spouted here about the Junior Task Force proposals at the NCU AGM. Firstly the task force was made up entirely of people currently playing and in the main captaining sides at Junior level. Secondly we held 3 roadshows attended by over 80% of the clubs and the soundings from those were then taken to draft the final proposals. The working proposals were on the NCU website and the final proposals were circulated prior to the AGM and we then got 100% support on the night. I don't know what else we could have done. We took a grown up approach knowing that we wouldn't please everyone but I think our stance was vindicated by the support on the night. I really don't know what more we could have done. We were supported at the roadshows by the Chairman, Vice Chairman and the Director of Development of the Union and we then consulted with Dr Murray Power in drawing up the final proposals to make sure the wording refelected the spirit of what we wanted to achieve. As for the decision to place league 3.1 ABOVE 2.3, I think that is a common sense decision once we got the support for straight through leagues. Straight through leagues allow the stronger clubs more junior teams to find a competitive level without a false ceiling.
My understanding is that that decision doesn't need to be voted on at the AGM but if it had to be I would have had no problem proposing it on the behalf of the Task Force and again am confident it would have been passed. This matter was well discussed at the roadshows. Again a lot of armchair critics. Why not get off your backsides and make a contribution to next years Task Forces.

andy kennedy

still fishing in Buckna

27th Nov 2010

sorry Jim - did I miss something? how many did Mr. Cricket end up with? I wish I could have batted like him! And yes Dazzler - last Saturday was great crack - but then it always is when aul' lads start recalling the good old days. Still don't know the result but I think Lurgan won!!

dazzler

Wishing I was in Australia

27th Nov 2010

Andy Kennedy - great day last saturday!!!!

Ashes

I'm loving the score at the minute loved reading the papers yesterday-will enjoy today and cant wait until tomorrow after 143-5 turned into 480 odd for the aussies. Wont be too many "We're favourites for the ashes now" from the english media. According to all the bookmakers England never were favourites( Jeff i think Ozzies 10/11 and eng 2/1 for the series) but the english media had England as favourites and an easy win.
However still alot of cricket to be played.

jim

facing at the non-strikers end

27th Nov 2010

andy k still anti english i see.
I heard Nasser's comment last night too, and that was during the long Anderson spell where Hussey couldnt get bat on ball, he actually looked like u when you bat. Broad and Finn also had them tied down. get off your soapbox and change the record

andy kennedy

icy Buckna

27th Nov 2010

to be fair to Roy Young - nowhere in his postings does he say that he is a member of, or speak on behalf of the Ards club. Sometimes people just want to read what suits them. If one follows Neil's logic then the forum will become sterilised. It is clear that some clubs have placed an embargo on anyone exercising their right to free speech but there are some who have the cohanes to put their head over the parapet. I know that the decision taken at the NCU AGM wasn't to everyone's taste but we are where we are. Funny enough, on travels around several cricket dinners this year I heard a wee whisper that not all club reps voted in line with club thinking - but it might just be rumour!

andy kennedy

sparkling, clear, frosty Buckna

27th Nov 2010

come out of the closet?! What exactly are you advocating here Clarence!! Also please remember that the "closet" means something entirely different up here in icy Buckna!! On a different tack & I know that I incurred the wrath of certain "anonymous" England supporters when I commented on the English media but something on Sky this morning really takes the biscuit. At approx. 12:30 a.m., with the Aussies on 258/5 Nasser Hussain asked Shane Warne if he thought that "on balance England had bowled better yesterday!" This must go down as a real "Colemanballs" for those of us old enough to remember. The English media - don't you just love them!!